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What makes you think I'm not still in a trailer?
Cold Calling Door Knocking for Final Expense
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What makes you think I'm not still in a trailer?
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lol, Travis starts the fires and then ol Newby has to come along with the humor to try and put them out.....
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You absolutely cannot create a post without including an insult, can you? Are you that low that you have to do a search of my address to find more ways to put me down? Did you actually take the time to look that up or call one of my uplines for ammunition? What's next on your radar....my kids? My parents? I have a new grandson that's 5 days old, do you plan on any insults toward him, too?
My "nose" on this tread was a response to the OP regarding the topic of D2D. If anyone's nose is not where it's supposed to be it's yours.
As long as we're talking about leads, here's the truth about buying them if you're a new agent and have never done sales before:
You spend 20 to 30 bucks ($400 to $500 to satisfy most companies minimum order) per lead to get 30 minutes with a person to try to sell them. If you don't know how to talk to people, are nervous, use a "canned" sales pitch, or just don't know what to really say, then that money is down the drain. Yes, there are a few that can buy leads from the start and be successful from the start. There are also guys that can walk onto a pro football or baseball camp fresh out of high school and make the team. But for most it will take several weeks or even months to get good at it enough to be able to keep buying those leads each and every week. This is why the agent failure rate is, I believe, to be 90 to 95 percent during the first 2 years. And how long does a lead company remain good? How many threads on here say..."Company X was good but now they're lousy". Then it's off to find another one and start from scratch yet again. And of course they all say they're the best there is. Selling leads is the business they're in.
As I said before I door knock for two reasons. One is that I like it. I spent 25 years in management and another 20 in other sales so I know how to talk to people. I don't have a "pitch" because it can change 20 times a day depending on the person I meet. The other reason is because of my health, which beyond that is none of your business. Perhaps you can look that up and post it as well?
You say I'm the one that has lost respect today. Judging from the other comments I think I will disagree with that.
And, I don't smoke.
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If clearing up horrible marketing advice that is being given is starting fires than I'm guilty.
If somebody (Jeff Ward) accuses me of earning lead money me and him are going to have issues, and the gloves are coming off.
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I admit I've never actually read the forum rules that closely, but I would think physical threats would be frowned upon.
And show me where I gave advice. I said I do it and I responded to the OP asking questions about it...I never recommended it.
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I wish I could afford waterfront property like that.
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I'm going to stay out the pissing match..kinda.
Your number are off...if an agent buys 20 dm leads and doesn't write $1k in AP off of them(enough to pay for leads, gas etc..) then they need to move on and go back to flipping burgers
The reason the failure rate for agents is so high is because the threshold to entry is sooo low. All you've gotta do is sign up for a $150 course and take a $100 test.
It's why I attack marketers on here so much. They make promises to guys about earning $100k per year, when said 'newb' has never made more than $25k in a year. "Sure you've been a failure your whole life, but I can show you how to make tons of money"...that's the crap that the YIG's, Securus, Lincoln Heritage and Senior Life idiots propagate. Hell SL just emailed a contracting blast and it had a video titled,"Sizzle Video". It was all about making a million dollars in 3 years.
It also the reason that I respect Travis so much. He doesn't want every agent that calls him...and Fex doesn't take them. Man, some of you guys think I give Newby a hard time on here...it'd be nuclear if I didn't respect Travis so much. Not to say that I don't respect what Scott has accomplished as an agent, it's actually pretty impressive, it just ain't FE...and that's as close to a compliment as I'm going to give him
Ok, you 2 can go back to fighting.
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I'm going to stay out the pissing match..kinda. Your number are off...if an agent buys 20 dm leads and doesn't write $1k in AP off of them(enough to pay for leads, gas etc..) then they need to move on and go back to flipping burgers The reason the failure rate for agents is so high is because the threshold to entry is sooo low. All you've gotta do is sign up for a $150 course and take a $100 test. It's why I attack marketers on here so much. They make promises to guys about earning $100k per year, when said 'newb' has never made more than $25k in a year. "Sure you've been a failure your whole life, but I can show you how to make tons of money"...that's the crap that the YIG's, Securus, Lincoln Heritage and Senior Life idiots propagate. Hell SL just emailed a contracting blast and it had a video titled,"Sizzle Video". It was all about making a million dollars in 3 years. It also the reason that I respect Travis so much. He doesn't want every agent that calls him...and Fex doesn't take them. Man, some of you guys think I give Newby a hard time on here...it'd be nuclear if I didn't respect Travis so much. Not to say that I don't respect what Scott has accomplished as an agent, it's actually pretty impressive, it just ain't FE...and that's as close to a compliment as I'm going to give him
Just like that I lost my Strap, JONES!
Thank you for the post. That is something that people are afraid to say in public. If you don't have a resources for marketing, FE will always be a struggle with probable failure.
"I'm just glad I don't live in a trailer!" Jimmy Buffett
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