Fair enough!
I created a (FE agents only group) on Facebook
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Aren't you the same one that just earlier in this thread indicated that an agent can not master more than one product and certainly not at the same time? I think you also said you didn't know anyone that was a $200K per year producer that did more than one product?
You should hang around different people then. If you did hang around those that were actually able to proficiently sell more than one product then you would know that your statement isn't true at all. I know, you're only regurgitating what Travis and JD have taught you, but I'm telling you that it just isn't true. The only reason Travis and JD say those things is because that is what they do. Contrary to JD's own beliefs, he does not know even a 10th of the heavy hitters out there. Have you not figured out that no matter what, Travis' way is the "only" way....or so that's what they would want you to believe. So far, their spew is working well on you.
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you're misquoting me. if you're going to quote me quote me right LOL.
I said I do know a handful that do health and life and are successful at it.
I personally don't recommend it for a new agent unless he already came from the health side to do final expense it's harder when that's backwards and he's not a seasoned final expense agent.
What I said about the having a better idea is what I've seen on this forum which is why many people don't return to it.
Anytime someone proposes a better process of doing something that doesn't agree with what someone else teaches it automatically gets bashed and regarded as spew and lies. That's what I meant.
Seems to be a very close minded few that drive everyone away from this group. dinosaurs set in their ways I like to stay open minded to new ideas
Jose, I am well aware of the words you said. Here they are again if anyone wants to re-read it:
"Stick to one thing Master it make 200k in a year. then if you want to add Health go for it.
There's only a handful of Agents I know can do both and everybody in that hand full wrights over 200k in FE as their bread and butter, health is just extra."
You are still talking about being an FE producer who just writes a little "health" when it jumps up and smacks them in the face. This is not what I'm trying to say. I'm talking about the guys that know how to target a particular product and ALSO successfully cross-sell on a consistent basis. Scott would be the only one at FEX that would even come close to being able to do this.
You only know a handful because you don't hang around the agents that do sell multiple products.
JD is famous for calling out the "one trick ponies", but little does he understand that's all he is. He sells FE and puts a few other products here and there when it's presented to him. Hell, he's such a one trick pony that he won't even go out of his way to ask for referrals! He says he gets them but doesn't ask for them. That's a shame. But to each his own. I've even seen JD take his claim so far as to make one believe that you just CAN'T learn more than one thing at once. He's just so wrong about that, but he'll never understand that he is.
So, I still say you should stop regurgitating what Travis and JD have tried to teach you about that.
"Stick to one thing Master it make 200k in a year. then if you want to add Health go for it.
There's only a handful of Agents I know can do both and everybody in that hand full wrights over 200k in FE as their bread and butter, health is just extra."
You are still talking about being an FE producer who just writes a little "health" when it jumps up and smacks them in the face. This is not what I'm trying to say. I'm talking about the guys that know how to target a particular product and ALSO successfully cross-sell on a consistent basis. Scott would be the only one at FEX that would even come close to being able to do this.
You only know a handful because you don't hang around the agents that do sell multiple products.
JD is famous for calling out the "one trick ponies", but little does he understand that's all he is. He sells FE and puts a few other products here and there when it's presented to him. Hell, he's such a one trick pony that he won't even go out of his way to ask for referrals! He says he gets them but doesn't ask for them. That's a shame. But to each his own. I've even seen JD take his claim so far as to make one believe that you just CAN'T learn more than one thing at once. He's just so wrong about that, but he'll never understand that he is.
So, I still say you should stop regurgitating what Travis and JD have tried to teach you about that.
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Jose Arteaga
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@Todd King side note I've never had JD or Travis tell me what you're saying they've said to me
Sorry buddy, but as much as they preach it there is no way that you've never heard one of them say it. You don't have to lie to have friends!
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Yes that's what I said. are you saying you think the new agent should be learning both right from the start?
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Speculating is what you're doing
No, not every agent. I try my best not to make blanket statements. There are many who could, would, and should though. The problem with that is that you won't know until you try it.
What new ideas? What I have heard you "preach" is the same ol', same ol'.. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but I certainly have not seen anything new. It is still exactly the same that "Burial" insurance agents were doing in the 80s.
