LH Agressive Recruiting

Adam Hale does work hard and should be proud of his success. The reason why this forum is a bad place to discuss it is because the majority are informed enough to know you can do as good or better with less work and less debt.

Adam expects you to work 50 hours a week and not only work your leads but knock on 10 doors per house you visit. He expects you to get in that door and make a sale. All this on a 75% or 80% contract or whatever.

We all know you can buy direct mail leads, work on 115-125% contracts, and if after a bit of training we actually worked 50 hours a week with the 10 neighbor survey method we would make a ton of money. Especially considering our FE products cost quite a bit less!

So with that being said LH is great for the new guy and it can be long term great for any agent that doesn't wise up. If you drink the LH koolaid forever and never peek onto this forum and have your eyes opened to the kind of money you could make with that kind of effort than you can do well at LH and never know what you are missing out on.

So technically you can have success with LH, and honestly Adam Hale is a FE machine and has worked hard, but the LH formula just doesn't apply to an agent that is actually informed about this business.

I am not going to get into the whole LH is evil thing. Because they are just a company to me. And on Adam Hale, I do not know him but know a few people that claim to know him. You know how that is. But he does seem to be a real FE beast. I hear he does not even comb his hair before starting work in the morning.

But your "and if after a bit of training we actually worked 50 hours a week" is so spot on. Hell one month of solid 30 hour weeks would be a great improvement.
 
As far as why he is always aggressively recruiting well I think it is obvious. #1 you just have the majority of people that can't hack it. 50 hours a week knocking on doors and getting in homes to sell FE isn't for everyone.

But with the work ethic Adam has and the training he provides I don't know why he doesn't do his own thing and form his own agency like jdeasy and the rest. Seems like that would be better in every way.

Recruiting is just like producing.. Just as soon as you quit producing, you income drops. If you are an agency builder, just as soon you quit recruiting, your income drops.

As to why he doesn't do his own thing, he probably has a commission rate now that would equal what he could get elsewhere and he has now become a very big fish in a small pond.. It is very hard to do that with multiple companies.
 
I am not going to get into the whole LH is evil thing. Because they are just a company to me. And on Adam Hale, I do not know him but know a few people that claim to know him. You know how that is. But he does seem to be a real FE beast. I hear he does not even comb his hair before starting work in the morning.

But your "and if after a bit of training we actually worked 50 hours a week" is so spot on. Hell one month of solid 30 hour weeks would be a great improvement.


Absolutely true!!! Especially about not having to comb his hair in the morning :)
 
Absolutely true!!! Especially about not having to comb his hair in the morning :)
Since when do you comb a cue ball? :err:
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There is a difference in the figures he gives in his post on this thread and what he states on this web page..

My Story
 
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Since when do you comb a cue ball? :err:
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There is a difference in the figures he gives in his post on this thread and what he states on this web page..

My Story

You have to give him credit, it takes pretty large balls to come onto a site like this where we know how crappy they are, and basically brag about all the agents and clients that you are successful in ripping off.

Either stupid or bold, not sure which. I 2nd what the poster said about recruiting in their area. I was happy to see their postcards showing up in my mailbox. I hope they fall on good soil...
 
Anyone that works 50+ at anything will be good at it.....I cant take that away from Mr. Hale if he indeed works that many hours....But what I'm not too fond of it is his excessive recruiting especially since I have told GM and LH NO!!! many times over. Next thing you know it Mr. Hale himself is gonna be knocking at my door asking me if I want a job....I compare his recruiting to a time share presentation.....they shove the vacation package down your throat until you have no choice to give up and agree to purchasing it.....LH is like that ugly chick at work that keeps harrassing you to ask her out for a drink until one day you find yourself alone and finally you give her a call and ask her out.......lol :D
 
Anyone that works 50+ at anything will be good at it.....I cant take that away from Mr. Hale if he indeed works that many hours....But what I'm not too fond of it is his excessive recruiting especially since I have told GM and LH NO!!! many times over. Next thing you know it Mr. Hale himself is gonna be knocking at my door asking me if I want a job....I compare his recruiting to a time share presentation.....they shove the vacation package down your throat until you have no choice to give up and agree to purchasing it.....LH is like that ugly chick at work that keeps harrassing you to ask her out for a drink until one day you find yourself alone and finally you give her a call and ask her out.......lol :D

King, we all get these calls and emails daily. If LH is the only one interested in you count your self lucky. Just nature of the business. You are just on a list, like any lead. We all are.
 
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Anyone that works 50+ at anything will be good at it.....I cant take that away from Mr. Hale if he indeed works that many hours....But what I'm not too fond of it is his excessive recruiting especially since I have told GM and LH NO!!! many times over. Next thing you know it Mr. Hale himself is gonna be knocking at my door asking me if I want a job....I compare his recruiting to a time share presentation.....they shove the vacation package down your throat until you have no choice to give up and agree to purchasing it.....LH is like that ugly chick at work that keeps harrassing you to ask her out for a drink until one day you find yourself alone and finally you give her a call and ask her out.......lol :D

Or you find yourself in the supply closet recieving a BJ but can't look yourself in the mirror afterward.

About LH constantly trying to recruit you, he is doing what he preaches not taking the first no, your a big boy and an insurance agent to boot I think you can handle saying no longer than Mr. Hale can hold his breath.
 
King, we all get these calls and emails daily. If LH is the only one interested in you count your self lucky. Just nature of the business. You are just on a list, like any lead. We all are.


I get robocalls on my cell phone everyday now. I get dozens of recruiting emails everyday. For some reason I'm not getting as many calls at hom e now since they use my cell phone more and more.

I've even started geting faxes again Dean Cippriano, {sp}. I thought I had fallen off their radar.
 
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