"99.5% WILL FAIL.." - SAM

[PA Bill]

Wolf of Wall Street (Jordan Belfort) was also a great sales trainer and gave a lot of great advice. In fact there are tons of YouTube videos with him doing training seminars. Just because he is great at that doesn't Give him a clean slate. Anyone that Travis has trained have only spoke highly of his abilities, but his personal life is being exposed.

This isn't a fact but just a thought. If Travis Allowed his family to illegally be on welfare (I'm not buying he didn't know), did he take shortcuts in his own business? Churn business to make money? Replace policies that ethically shouldn't have been replaced? Did he take advantage of ignorant agents?

Sorry, it's just hard to trust a crook...

Regarding JD, he didn't do anything wrong, but the fact that he went into hiding just shows that he was more than just a fex agent. As much great advise as he offered, god forbid you challenged him or disagreed with him otherwise he would just have it out for you and turn into a child with the name calling. And it was much more deeper than telesales and door knocking. It was how many leads you should order, what imo you should be with, certificate vs fraternals, what company to write in certain situations, recruting, and the list goes on. He is a bully, and I'm sure he is feeling a little embarrassed right now...

Oh stop running your mouth like a gossipy bitch. JD revered TT, called him one of the finest people he ever met many times. Maybe he got blindsided and is embarrassed? Leave JD out of this as you wouldn't amount to a pimple on his cantankerous rear end.

 

[rousemark]

I come to this forum to get new insight on how to sell insurance. Many of the best threads come from those two guys. Much of the animosity towards them as of late is because of their stance on tele sales and door knocking.

It appears to me most of the successful tele sales agents are glued to the phone 40 hours a week. Most door knockers spend far more time in the field than I do. Who in their right mind would want to do that when they could work half the hours and make the same or more money?

just my opinion

It isn't because of their stance on telesales and door knocking.. They could be against that and state it with no problem. It is the way they attack, many times personally, anyone who disagrees with them in any way.

 

[NSRH]

I come to this forum to get new insight on how to sell insurance. Many of the best threads come from those two guys. Much of the animosity towards them as of late is because of their stance on tele sales and door knocking.

It appears to me most of the successful tele sales agents are glued to the phone 40 hours a week. Most door knockers spend far more time in the field than I do. Who in their right mind would want to do that when they could work half the hours and make the same or more money?

just my opinion

You could not be more incorrect. Most FE agents are anti-telesales or anti-door knocking. However, most can argue their point and not be hateful. Just like you did in your second paragraph.

 

[Life Hawk]

I come to this forum to get new insight on how to sell insurance. Many of the best threads come from those two guys. Much of the animosity towards them as of late is because of their stance on tele sales and door knocking.

It appears to me most of the successful tele sales agents are glued to the phone 40 hours a week. Most door knockers spend far more time in the field than I do. Who in their right mind would want to do that when they could work half the hours and make the same or more money?

just my opinion

The one side effect of door knocking that may have not been addressed is the counter effect of a "cold" presentation... skill building. (Remember I'm and old "cold knocker", no names, down the street.)

In the fray of a "cold" presentation you learn to pivot or you die. You learn to create interest or you die. You learn ask good questions or you die. You learn to be liked or you die. You learn to listen or you die. You learn your product and how to place it or... you die.

I think there are fewer and fewer door knockers because the lack of skill. Not that people aren't very if not more successful on lead. But, the education you get from face to face cold calling is amazing... not to mention builds up resistance to being too soft skinned.

 

[PA Bill]

It isn't because of their stance on telesales and door knocking.. They could be against that and state it with no problem. It is the way they attack, many times personally, anyone who disagrees with them in any way.

What the hell is wrong with you? You've been kissing JD's rear end although he regularly got into you and you never had the guts to confront him. Just kissed his ass. But now that he's gone, you now feel free to run your mouth? I thought you were a Christian. Or are you just another one of those "dime a dozen" phony Christians?

 

[WinoBlues]

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Welfare as a 2nd income?

Yeah?, beats door knocking, loser!

 

[VolAgent]

What the hell is wrong with you? You've been kissing JD's rear end although he regularly got into you and you never had the guts to confront him. Just kissed his ass. But now that he's gone, you now feel free to run your mouth? I thought you were a Christian. Or are you just another one of those "dime a dozen" phony Christians?

You ok? Feeling well?

That is hardly an attack and Louis has always stood up to JD, he just never got down in the mud with him.

 

[PA Bill]

You ok? Feeling well?

That is hardly an attack and Louis has always stood up to JD, he just never got down in the mud with him.

Bullshit. Never got down down in the mud with him? Ok, but why all the bravery now as you've been running your mouth too?

 

[HoosierLife]

You could not be more incorrect. Most FE agents are anti-telesales or anti-door knocking. However, most can argue their point and not be hateful. Just like you did in your second paragraph.

Yeah I'm personally anti-door knocking. But I have agents that do it and I've seen many top agents do it with EFES. I still think it's highly inefficient.

I have no telesales experience, but I'm still not sure it is effective for the masses. For the IMO, I'm sure it's great.

50% AmAm and free leads is a deal I guess, but at the end of the day, you're making all the money.

So yeah lol, I'm anti-telesales too. But I've definitely taken my punches from the FEX crew...before and after I left.

 

[Rirwin]

Oh stop running your mouth like a gossipy bitch. JD revered TT, called him one of the finest people he ever met many times. Maybe he got blindsided and is embarrassed? Leave JD out of this as you wouldn't amount to a pimple on his cantankerous rear end.

This is a forum for professionals to have a conversation, if you don't like what I have to say - that sounds like a you problem.

And your little friend JD himself use to be a huge critic when someone else would come to another persons defense because "they couldn't defend themselves" and now he has his panties in a bunch and doesn't know what to do. Don't forget if the tables were turned fex would be having a field day!

I understand you are a fex minion...sorry this hits a soft spot for you!