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[DayTimer]

He already has the best part of it.. One of my daughters!

True that!

 

[walleye]

That's all true, but it does not negate this irrefutable fact:

Calories Consumed < Calories Burned = fat loss
Calories Consumed > Calories Burned = fat gain

Not true.
Why do you not see a special on tv of biggest losers reunion?
They all regained their weight!
Maybe open your mind and get educated, Day Timer tried, if you don't believe him check out the dietdoctor.com. Docs on there a lot smarter than you or I.

 

[rousemark]

Not true.
Why do you not see a special on tv of biggest losers reunion?
They all regained their weight!
Maybe open your mind and get educated, Day Timer tried, if you don't believe him check out the dietdoctor.com. Docs on there a lot smarter than you or I.

No they aren't.. I have a degree from WebMD ..

 

[goillini52]

Not true.
Why do you not see a special on tv of biggest losers reunion?
They all regained their weight!
Maybe open your mind and get educated, Day Timer tried, if you don't believe him check out the dietdoctor.com. Docs on there a lot smarter than you or I.

I just heard a bariatric surgery commercial on the radio and they referred to obesity as a disease.

 

[suranceman]

Not true.
Why do you not see a special on tv of biggest losers reunion?
They all regained their weight!
Maybe open your mind and get educated, Day Timer tried, if you don't believe him check out the dietdoctor.com. Docs on there a lot smarter than you or I.

This is so stupid we are still going over this.

The very laws of thermodynamics are what I'm quoting here.

You cannot create energy from nothing.

Therefore.

If you consume 1500 calories of fat or carbs or whatever AND you burn 2000 calories, it is impossible to gain fat.

You cannot be at an energy deficit and gain body fat.

It's impossible.

How is this something you are debating?

 

[shonceman]

This is so stupid we are still going over this.

The very laws of thermodynamics are what I'm quoting here.

You cannot create energy from nothing.

Therefore.

If you consume 1500 calories of fat or carbs or whatever AND you burn 2000 calories, it is impossible to gain fat.

You cannot be at an energy deficit and gain body fat.

It's impossible.

How is this something you are debating?

I'll let @DayTimer correct me if I'm wrong at all. But as I understand it, the debate isn't about whether expending more calories than intake will cause weight loss. Of course it will. The debate is about the source of the calories and which type tends to be stored and which type tends to burn.

A high carb diet tends toward obesity if the person isn't also on an aggressive exercise regimen to burn the calories. The high fat, low carb diet seems to work better at burning the fat as fuel rather than retaining it.

In my experience, I also don't get as hungry when following a low carb diet. So I end up consuming fewer calories. Getting away from sugar helps me overcome the craving for it. So, again, I consume fewer calories. For me, that's the key right there. I get away from food cravings and eat less as a result.

I don't pretend to completely understand all the science behind it. I'm sure that your calories in vs calories out formula works. It just works a lot better for me if I avoid carbs and sugars.

 

[rousemark]

Not true.
Why do you not see a special on tv of biggest losers reunion?
They all regained their weight!
Maybe open your mind and get educated, Day Timer tried, if you don't believe him check out the dietdoctor.com. Docs on there a lot smarter than you or I.

They gained the weight back because they reverted to their old habits.

 

[shonceman]

We seem to have another bacon thread going!

 

[shonceman]

 

[suranceman]

I'll let @DayTimer correct me if I'm wrong at all. But as I understand it, the debate isn't about whether expending more calories than intake will cause weight loss. Of course it will. The debate is about the source of the calories and which type tends to be stored and which type tends to burn.

A high carb diet tends toward obesity if the person isn't also on an aggressive exercise regimen to burn the calories. The high fat, low carb diet seems to work better at burning the fat as fuel rather than retaining it.

In my experience, I also don't get as hungry when following a low carb diet. So I end up consuming fewer calories. Getting away from sugar helps me overcome the craving for it. So, again, I consume fewer calories. For me, that's the key right there. I get away from food cravings and eat less as a result.

I don't pretend to completely understand all the science behind it. I'm sure that your calories in vs calories out formula works. It just works a lot better for me if I avoid carbs and sugars.

The type of food you consume does impact your overall weight gain/loss. Furthermore, your body type also influences that. Furthermore, there are medical conditions that influence how well or bad you gain/lose fat.

I'm not saying that his statements about the bacon diet or keto diet are wrong regarding their effectiveness.

That said, no matter what your age or body type or health issue it cannot be denied that
if you consume 1500 calories (from any food source) and you burn 2000 calories that you will lose body fat. You simply cannot cannot cannot gain body fat when you have an energy deficit.

It's impossible.

Therefore, no person of any condition (barring a mental retardation) can claim they are unable to lose fat. Everyone can choose to consume less calories then they burn.