either way at least I devalued the idea that WordPress websites should cost $499
No you didn't... Btw, you never answered my question from the other thread. Have you ever owned a business?
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either way at least I devalued the idea that WordPress websites should cost $499
No you didn't... Btw, you never answered my question from the other thread. Have you ever owned a business?
Why does it matter if I own a business or not? Did I offend you because you probably spent $1000+ on a WP site that doesn't rank? The only reason I say paying for a wordpress set up is a waste is because for the same price people are charging you can either get a real website with a CMS and quote engine or you can set it up yourself fairly easily and put that money towards SEO. A lot of people have this idea that once they get a website the leads start rolling in. So they buy a cheesy website and think that if they blog frequently Google will magically like them and send them to the top of the serps.
If you are investing in internet marketing, there are better ways to spend your money. This is just my opinion. Who really cares don't be so mad. Because you already have a WP site up, great for you. I didn't say they are bad websites. I'm saying that paying someone to install WP and change the layout of a premium theme just seems like a waste.
Why does it matter if I own a business or not? Did I offend you because you probably spent $1000+ on a WP site that doesn't rank? The only reason I say paying for a wordpress set up is a waste is because for the same price people are charging you can either get a real website with a CMS and quote engine or you can set it up yourself fairly easily and put that money towards SEO. A lot of people have this idea that once they get a website the leads start rolling in. So they buy a cheesy website and think that if they blog frequently Google will magically like them and send them to the top of the serps.
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It matters because you obviously have no comprehension of what it costs to do business. This was explained to you further in the other thread. Of that $499 being charged for a website, less than half is probably profit. Have you ever studied a P+L statement?
I posted about a web design biz focusing on the attorney niche that charges over $2,500 for wordpress install and design. If $499 is a "joke", then what would you consider that? You never answered that question either. The thing is people pay that $2,500 because they either don't know how to use WP, or really don't care to learn. It's just like any other trade.
To your little quip about paying $1,000+ for my website, again, you are clueless. I paid Josh (from this site) $100 for the domain name and for him to spend an hour or so teaching me to use wordpress over the phone. Oh, and he's been hosting it since February which I've been meaning to ask him about. Money well spent it my opinion. I've now been able to help out some friends and family that needed basic sites built and didn't know where to look.
If you could go ahead and link to the companies charging $499 for the great websites that you describe, that would be great. We could then compare. Hell, maybe you could even link to some of your site(s) to show us how great they are?
Long story short, creating a WP site for an agent is going to take 4-5 hours of work, if the agent isn't particular about the look and layout of the site. Not every client will be the same. It could easily spiral into 10-15 with a picky agent asking for countless revisions. Considering the costs involved, I just don't understand how you can accuse somebody charging $499 a "joke"? To degrade somebody's business like that tells me you have never been in business for yourself.
Raph -
So you're trying to play the victim card while attacking my website, all in the same post? And at the same time you won't show everybody your site, or inform us what this amazing platform is that will build superior sites for $350. Interesting...
I'll give you credit, if somebody could build a site like the ones you linked for $350 w/ normal hosting costs ($5-10/month), I would jump at that in a second. Why can't you tell us how we can all get a site like that at such an amazing price? Apparently they even convert for "big boy" search terms. It would be a no brainer for most all agents.
As for my site, I'm sorry you think it's terrible and that anybody that has a facebook account could build it in an hour. While I think you're completely off base with that assessment, I'll let you be the judge. To your point about paying for a "EMD", I'm not sure what that means. As I mentioned, I paid $100 for the domain name, an hour or so of coaching, and almost a year now of hosting. Not a bad deal in my opinion. Is that price a "joke" too?
I'm not going to debate the SEO, EMD's, and "big boy search terms" with you because I really don't care. I'll concede that you apparently have a lock on SEO for insurance agents.
Having a website is a cost of doing business. Most agents want a site so that they have a unique email address and something for their clients to reference if they need it. They don't care about EMD, SEO, or anything else. There are only so many first page spots on Google and if an agent spent their whole day worrying about how to get there, then they would be out of businesses really quick.
As I mentioned in other posts, the cost of web design services varies greatly depending on where you look. I referenced that site that focuses on attorneys. You didn't respond to my question about that. Is that business owner a "joke" to you too? What about Go Daddy? They charge over $600/year for basic sites. Another joke? What about Agent Methods Insurance Website Pricing & Signup | AgentMethods They are $600/year. All these jokes out there. Better yet, maybe you can just develop a pricing chart on what is acceptable for an agent to pay for a site.
I don't have a problem with you favoring your platform over the $499 site that was referenced. Everybody has their own tastes/preferences. I'll give you an example. My family and I go out to eat a lot. There is a certain restaurant that we frequent which has an amazing staff. They always remember our name, ask how we're doing, etc. Now, it doesn't have the best food in the world. There are probably 100 other restaurants that have better food in the city for the same price, but we keep going back. We always have a great experience. Do you think I would ever say to the owner of this restaurant that his business is a "joke"? Of course not.
To your point about about the cost of doing business, nobody "told" me what it is. I know what it is because I've owned two businesses (3 if you consider indy insurance sales a business). I've also learned that it takes a lot of determination, passion, and courage to start a business. You may or may not know that most fail. Do you understand that calling somebody's business a joke is really insulting? This is why I assumed you had never started your own business. Because if you had, you would know how tough it is and might be a little more hesitant to call somebody efforts a joke.
I'm just about over this thread and have really said all I have to say, so I'll let you have the last word.