Is Telesales Working Consistently. Here Are my Comparisons

[BoJax]

I do know it will work for telesales. I know of many agents selling term by phone and FU whole life and UL's and making great money.

I know of even more selling med sups by phone and killing it.

It's not personal about it not working for FE telesales. It's just a fact. It's a different market and it's not a working model. And I know of zero 6 figure earners in a call center except for the people running the call center.


I said before I knew of 2 FE telesales agents making it on their own. I've been told since I said that one of them is no longer making it.

Is it possible that there is a unicorn out there? Yes, it's possible. Is it possible that someone that really knows and understands the FE market will start a call center one day and make it work? Yes, that's possible too. It hasn't happened yet.

You seem to want to believe in the tooth fairy and you're getting mad at the person that's telling you the tooth fairy is not real.

This is one of those lessons you are just going to have to learn. It can't be taught.

I'm not mad at all. But I will say you are wrong. North Star has 6 figure earners and you refuse to see that. They are as much as a unicorn as you are.

My point maybe it's not possible for you, but it's possible for others, but your dislike for daviso and ramiz clearly blurs your vision!

 

[NuUzr]

With the right work ethic, anyone can LEARN to be successful with any of these companies. Be prepared to make the $$$ move after cutting through the learning curve...

Here are my suggestions on how

1. Never sign any type of Non-Compete unless you have to work in a call center
2. Learn Learn Learn
3. Once you are capable at closing and can sell, ask your up line for full commission/110-120% FYC, or a release, and get your own lead source.

Our agents have access to inbound TV Leads and 110-120% but we only take agents with experience selling over the phone, as the Persistency and Placement are horrible!

Here is why
Selling final expense over the phone - YouTube

Are you with EFES?

 

[Thedude]

Wait, Doug you sell over the phone now?

 

[NuUzr]

I'm not mad at all. But I will say you are wrong. North Star has 6 figure earners and you refuse to see that. They are as much as a unicorn as you are.

My point maybe it's not possible for you, but it's possible for others, but your dislike for daviso and ramiz clearly blurs your vision!

I was on a NorthStar Webinar - The recruiter/'boss' was extremely condescending and arrogant. He went on and on about what a 'favor' he was doing for the agents considering the amount of $$ the company invested in the call center/leads/support structure etc.

The company reeked of a Hitler'esk culture. If you're weak minded and desperate - they will love you. If you want to punch someone(anyone) in the nose for yelling and/or degrading you - this isn't the place for you.

Not to mention their failure rate is through the roof!

 

[BoJax]

I was on a NorthStar Webinar - The recruiter/'boss' was extremely condescending and arrogant. He went on and on about what a 'favor' he was doing for the agents considering the amount of $$ the company invested in the call center/leads/support structure etc.

The company reeked of a Hitler'esk culture. If you're weak minded and desperate - they will love you. If you want to punch someone(anyone) in the nose for yelling and/or degrading you - this isn't the place for you.

Not to mention their failure rate is through the roof!

"you can't fail if you never start" - nuuzr

 

[NuUzr]

I don't think those numbers are all that special. But I did take to insurance sales very quickly for some reason.

My first full month in this business I did $12K on 5 leads per week.

Yes, I got excellent training and I followed that training to the letter. Even the parts I didn't like. I ditched the parts I didn't like as I formed my own way.

But I still get great training. When I was with EFES I never missed a plug and learn call, I never missed a Friday call and I never missed an agent meeting. Same now with FEX. I never miss a training call nor an agent meeting.

I am on the groupme chat every day. As a contributor and as a learner.

How could an agent duplicate what I do? Just do what I do. Get leads, set appointments and then run the appointments.

I do the same thing every week. I never shut off the leads. I have my appointment setting days and my field days. I am normally in the field 2 days a week.

The RGI leads are really good. But the leads at EFES were really good. As were the leads I got from TLC.

Most agents don't want to do what I do as far as delivery policies and the service work. I'm seeing 3 clients tomorrow while in the field just for service work. 2 are beneficiary changes and 1 is a smoker that quit smoking and I'm helping with the paperwork to get her rate lowered.

I just finished scheduling for tomorrow so this afternoon I'm going down to help another client with a bene change. But she has a referral for me to see too.

If you want to learn a duplicable system then I would recommend FEX to anyone. The number one agent with FEX right now has been in the business less than 2 years. He gets 20 leads per week and he's at about $250K for the year. He follows everything Travis has taught to the letter.

He hasn't one time tried to reinvent the wheel.

Travis Tubbs is the best FE agent that I've ever known or known about. And he teaches his system. I say mostly because he walks the walk. In addition to running FEX he will write over $200K in personal production this year. From the same leads that the rest of us use. He's probably only in the field 1 day per week now on average.

FEX will have more than 10 $200K producers this year and more than 25 $150K producers. All trained by Travis.

You want a path to success in FE? Follow what Travis Tubbs does.

Impressive.

How is the "system" shared/taught to agents who are out of state?

With FEX - on avg, how much do new agents invest to get started?

I wish part 2 of the Travis interview was available on FEX website..

JD, you're a rare breed to produce so much with limited leads.

 

[jdeasy]

I'm not mad at all. But I will say you are wrong. North Star has 6 figure earners and you refuse to see that. They are as much as a unicorn as you are.

My point maybe it's not possible for you, but it's possible for others, but your dislike for daviso and ramiz clearly blurs your vision!

I do not believe they have six figure earners. And I have only heard that they do from the marketers for them.

It's not a refusal to see. It doesn't exist for me to see.

Just like the narrative they are feeding you about personal dislike. They are the ones that made it personal against me because I was telling the truth about their operations. You have bought into their lies.

Daviso used to get on here and brag about me. He flipped out when he got canned at EFES. Same for your new buddy. I used to get leads from him. Not leads, preset appointments for MA.

They want to discredit me so that agents won't believe what I say about telesales. It's worked on you. But you will learn too.

You are the one that's wrong to keep trying to make it personal.

And why would I make it personal anyway? I have nothing to gain or lose from them. They are not rivals to me. But I hurt their business by telling the truth. They want that to stop. It's the same with the LH marketers. They attack me personally. One of them even threatened me.

They all send me private messages. That they initiate. I have not initiated a private message to any of them.

 

[KRobby]

I was on a NorthStar Webinar - The recruiter/'boss' was extremely condescending and arrogant. He went on and on about what a 'favor' he was doing for the agents considering the amount of $$ the company invested in the call center/leads/support structure etc.

The company reeked of a Hitler'esk culture. If you're weak minded and desperate - they will love you. If you want to punch someone(anyone) in the nose for yelling and/or degrading you - this isn't the place for you.

Not to mention their failure rate is through the roof!

That's completely irrelevant to what he was responding to.
Also, weak minded and desperate sounds more like stalin culture.

 

[jdeasy]

Impressive.

How is the "system" shared/taught to agents who are out of state?

With FEX - on avg, how much do new agents invest to get started?

I wish part 2 of the Travis interview was available on FEX website..

JD, you're a rare breed to produce so much with limited leads.

It's taught by the website, phone calls, interaction with other agents and ride alongs with Travis.

FEX doesn't have a sign up fee. So I don't know what you mean by invest. Just the cost of your leads. But you would pay for them anywhere.

That's probably a consensus opinion that I'm a rare breed.

Good and bad!!

 

[BoJax]

I do not believe they have six figure earners. And I have only heard that they do from the marketers for them.

It's not a refusal to see. It doesn't exist for me to see.

Just like the narrative they are feeding you about personal dislike. They are the ones that made it personal against me because I was telling the truth about their operations. You have bought into their lies.

Daviso used to get on here and brag about me. He flipped out when he got canned at EFES. Same for your new buddy. I used to get leads from him. Not leads, preset appointments for MA.

They want to discredit me so that agents won't believe what I say about telesales. It's worked on you. But you will learn too.

You are the one that's wrong to keep trying to make it personal.

And why would I make it personal anyway? I have nothing to gain or lose from them. They are not rivals to me. But I hurt their business by telling the truth. They want that to stop. It's the same with the LH marketers. They attack me personally. One of them even threatened me.

They all send me private messages. That they initiate. I have not initiated a private message to any of them.

I've seen one of their agents 1099 never seen yours. Her production is more real than any others on here. Wake up dude...

And I doubt they ALL send you messages, exaggerate much? I have nothing to lose or gain, but I'm fair and open minded. You...well I guess we can let everyone make their own opinion.