Single Payor if Trump Gets Elected?

We have had this difference of opinion before. Rand doesn't have a chance.

The way to fix health insurance is to expand Medicaid for low income, create a national high risk pool (or just throw them in with Medicaid), & eliminate group policies. It would bring the price down considerably & eliminate fear of changing jobs due to HI. It would also give people an incentive to get/stay/be healthy.

Fixing health insurance to me means putting it (mostly) back like it was (underwritten), + national risk pook + Medicaid to 125% of FPL.

The libs didn't want that and Obamacare is overkill.

Unfortunately they have so completely destroyed any semblance of what was pre-2014 (or 2010, depending on your perspective) that the genie can never go back in the bottle.

Medicaid is broken which is why 19 states still have not expanded the definition. The other 31 states (Utah is still on the fence) are not totally convinced it is working and it won't be long before they will have to figure out how to pay their portion.

Expanding Medicaid was no guarantee the moocher class will have access to health care and many are still using the ER as their PCP.

State risk pools kind of worked in some states. Having a national risk pool was a better idea but never got traction.

Obamacare will, sooner rather than later, collapse under the weight of the cost of running the program. More carriers will bail in the next couple of years leaving Blue and a few regional players in the game. Blue will become the essence of single payer and everyone else will find something else to do.

Group insurance for large employers and smaller white collar groups will remain pretty much in place while other employers will drop coverage if they can (and stay within the law) or come up with creative ways to deal with Ocare.

As bad as the public perceived the health insurance market to be before, most don't care for this new operation.

Ocare is so miserably dysfunctional that it can never really be fixed with patches and amendments. Until it is scrapped and built from the ground up it will hobble along until it lays down and dies.
 
They said the same thing about Reagan...

That's right. They said that if Reagan polled low, did not get many primary votes, and was not a good debater he would not make it. Except he overcame those obstacles. And now that we are into the primary season how is Rand doing? If he is overcoming those obstacles then he is fine too just like Reagan.

Last I heard he was about to get kicked off of even the kiddie debate forum for polling so low.
 
If you care to look at the msm polls they all exclude people under 50. The last time I checked, the growing Independent population that is growing, is younger than that. He has more organization than any candidate, and knows how to win the delegate game if the RNC doesn't try to stifle the grass-roots like last election.
 
If you care to look at the msm polls they all exclude people under 50. The last time I checked, the growing Independent population that is growing, is younger than that. He has more organization than any candidate, and knows how to win the delegate game if the RNC doesn't try to stifle the grass-roots like last election.

Rand is the only one who has issued detailed proposals on most all of the issues. Everyone else is just feel good statements and a few random select written proposals. No one knows anyones plan other than Rand. But the masses vote on soundbites and detest reading anything over 140 characters.
 
If you care to look at the msm polls they all exclude people under 50. The last time I checked, the growing Independent population that is growing, is younger than that. He has more organization than any candidate, and knows how to win the delegate game if the RNC doesn't try to stifle the grass-roots like last election.

That's fine.

We have been around on this before, eh. Ron Paul was going to win because he was your man. Howd that work out for ya?

Oh I see. He should have gotten the nomination so you should have been right.
 
I can't help it if the RNC had to ram legislation through to strip delegates away and prevent everyone from having a real conversation and a choice. yep our Republic is alive and well.

Not really. You can in fact do some things to help yourself if you are not seeing factors that obviously will keep a person from getting the nomination.

Rand's poll numbers are an asterisk. Oh I see- a polling flaw.

Probably if they fixed the polls, Lindsay Graham would be at 32%. That would put Rand and Lindsay neck and neck. Whatever.
 
Because under 50's would vote for Graham? Your logic is flawed...I like it how you only come on the forums for the political posts.

You were Baghdad Bob for Ron Paul. Now you are Baghdad Bob for Rand.

If your comments about single payor are predicated upon your die-hard assumption that Rand is going to be elected then that is relevant.

Because he is not.
 
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