We need a Baltimore Life contract for Tele-Sales. . .

[Todd King]

Todd, you are so very sadly mistaken. If you think agents are not getting a 120 with trans and moo, you are completely dilusional. Even IMO's on this forum give that amount.

Can you post your companies and contract levels and Maybe just for fun other recruiters here can do the same. Let's see who is honest and who is not.

And like Suranceman, you can't prove that ANY agent without a downline has these levels.

I dare ANYONE on this board to actually prove they have higher than 115% with Trans or MoO for FE, without a downline or not having had to prove any production. If you want to challenge me on then be prepared to tell me who your upline is along with your writing number so that I can verify it and not just take someone's word for it. I'll be glad to say I was wrong.

If you can't or won't prove it then you'll just be considered a liar at this point.

 

[JimmyCrappedCorn]

Todd, you are so very sadly mistaken. If you think agents are not getting a 120 with trans and moo, you are completely dilusional. Even IMO's on this forum give that amount.

Can you post your companies and contract levels and Maybe just for fun other recruiters here can do the same. Let's see who is honest and who is not.

I know you won't prove it because you can't. You're making this up at this point. Now, if you would like to try and prove this to me via private email or something, then I have no problem with that and will come back on here and tell the world you were right. I'm sure I'm going to hear crickets on this.

Just curious, who is your upline that can make these magical things come to life? Bet I don't get an answer on this either!

 

[JimmyCrappedCorn]

We can't no more tell you who our uplines are or show you our contracts then we would taunt a rattle snake. No point in risking getting snake bit. I too have a higher then 120% Mutual Contract.

 

[suranceman]

And like Suranceman, you can't prove that ANY agent without a downline has these levels.

I dare ANYONE on this board to actually prove they have higher than 115% with Trans or MoO for FE, without a downline or not having had to prove any production. If you want to challenge me on then be prepared to tell me who your upline is along with your writing number so that I can verify it and not just take someone's word for it. I'll be glad to say I was wrong.

If you can't or won't prove it then you'll just be considered a liar at this point.

You are mental man. Why would we self incriminate ourselves?

O well. Just keep believing these carriers don't bend their rules.

 

[Rirwin]

And like Suranceman, you can't prove that ANY agent without a downline has these levels.

I dare ANYONE on this board to actually prove they have higher than 115% with Trans or MoO for FE, without a downline or not having had to prove any production. If you want to challenge me on then be prepared to tell me who your upline is along with your writing number so that I can verify it and not just take someone's word for it. I'll be glad to say I was wrong.

If you can't or won't prove it then you'll just be considered a liar at this point.

How many of us are you going to call liars before you just admit you're wrong?

 

[senior-advisor-indiana]

I don't see why he has to prove it Todd. I know what my contract levels are and I know I don't have a downline. I have no reason to make that up and I don't see why suranceman would either. There is no reason for an agent to give you thier agent number and FMO so you can call and make a big stink about it...

 

[myinsurebiz]

And like Suranceman, you can't prove that ANY agent without a downline has these levels.

I dare ANYONE on this board to actually prove they have higher than 115% with Trans or MoO for FE, without a downline or not having had to prove any production. If you want to challenge me on then be prepared to tell me who your upline is along with your writing number so that I can verify it and not just take someone's word for it. I'll be glad to say I was wrong.

If you can't or won't prove it then you'll just be considered a liar at this point.

my term sheet:

Ages, 45-80 120.0%
7.0% year 2 - 5
6.5% year 6 - 10

 

[chasejordan1]

The only way is if the up-line lies. We all know that doesn't happen.

 

[FinalExpenseDojo.com]

The only way is if the up-line lies. We all know that doesn't happen.

Never!

 

[Todd King]

We can't no more tell you who our uplines are or show you our contracts then we would taunt a rattle snake. No point in risking getting snake bit. I too have a higher then 120% Mutual Contract.

But you shouldn't have a problem if you and your upline got those levels for you on the up and up. Are you trying to say that your upline is involved in sending false information to the company? This would be the ONLY way you got that/those levels with the 2 companies we are referring to.

How many of us are you going to call liars before you just admit you're wrong?

At least 2 of you!

I don't see why he has to prove it Todd. I know what my contract levels are and I know I don't have a downline. I have no reason to make that up and I don't see why suranceman would either. There is no reason for an agent to give you thier agent number and FMO so you can call and make a big stink about it...

And all 3 of you are worried that it would cause a stink huh? If you got those levels honestly you would have nothing to worry about, but yet you do. What's wrong with that picture?

You're all 3 correct about one thing though....you won't prove it. I still suspect that at least 2 out of the 3 of you just can't because you don't have those levels and you're just trying to play the big shot that you are not.

It is actually good for you that you don't prove it to me if you actually have those levels. Not that I would be out to get you, because every agent should be trying to get the most they possibly can. It's the upline that would be under the magnifying glass. And yes, you're damned right I would raise a stink! If rules are set by the company for me to follow, then all IMO's must follow the same rules....without exception!