Duford Insurance Group vs. Digital BGA for Final Expense Telesales

[CLTX]

"If you do your due diligence before signing a contract" what? How would I have known that and how would I be okay with it if this is what has to be signed to get out of working for them? At that point people/independent contractors have no choice.

 

[rousemark]

Whatyouwantfinally Doxing Definition: the action or process of searching for and publishing private or identifying information about a particular individual on the internet, typically with malicious intent: I was doxed. If someone gives your business a bad review, you have the right as the business to respond and get the last word but you do NOT have the right to say who they are. The internet/Google prevents that because it is doxing.

Sorry but no one searched the internet to find out who you are. You just are not that important. Jroot used information you provided him, he did not have to search.

 

[CLTX]

Still waiting for all of your non-competes with your personal information. Let's not be "cowards". This is pretty "standard" -no? Anyway. This was fun. I have to get back to work. Take your final digs like the adults that you are. I am out.

 

[rousemark]

"If you do your due diligence before signing a contract" what? How would I have known that and how would I be okay with it if this is what has to be signed to get out of working for them? At that point people/independent contractors have no choice.

You ask up front what terms of release are before you sign. You have a choice, Nobody stuck a gun to your head and made you go to work for them.

 

[suranceman]

Holy crap this CLTX lady sounds like a nightmare.

Bullet dodged Jeff!

 

[WinoBlues]

I have to get back to work.

Wise move. And the best you could do for yourself.

Good luck

 

[whatyouwantfinally]

Whatyouwantfinally Doxing Definition: the action or process of searching for and publishing private or identifying information about a particular individual on the internet, typically with malicious intent: I was doxed. If someone gives your business a bad review, you have the right as the business to respond and get the last word but you do NOT have the right to say who they are. The internet/Google prevents that because it is doxing.

Last time; you weren't doxxed. And you DO have that right; Google isn't the law, and "the internet" doesn't prevent anything. There was no information provided that could be used to harass you, and there was nothing any reasonable person could consider an intent to direct harassment at you. Disagreement on a message board isn't harassment.

Also, if you were an independent agent contracted with his IMO, then you mentioning his business by name is no different than him mentioning you by name. His company did business with you just as you did business with his company.

 

[Telesales314]

Telesales315 You are unaware that he posted my name. That was to make me back down.
---It is removed now, but I do see where it was originally there. Even if he posted your full name, that does not instantly turn it into doxxing. You lodged an anonymous complaint that could be harmful to his business. He said "here is the situation, this is the person making the complaint, this is what happened, this is our release verbiage".
---He is allowed to clarify criticisms of his business. He is not telling anyone to be unkind to you, he gave you a release, and to top it all off, he went back and removed your name when it was clear that it bothered you


You said "multiple people on here have said this is standard" I don't see that. Show me please.
----- 1-Jroot in his response. 2-Newby in post #210. 3-Me in this post right now and my previous post. For for agents that are employees (such as you were), having a non-compete is common. And yours was not even enforced on you.


Mutiple people have laid into me.
------Multiple people are allowed to disagree with your stances/opinions.

Every 2 minutes someone is slamming me now.
------You have come back and doubled-down on your takes and stances that they have disagreed with. Are they not allowed to double down on their disagreement?

The reason you are getting so much engagement, is that there are a lot of places that RIGHTFULLY have a bad reputation regarding releases/noncompete. So some forum members don't like decent companies being lumped into that category.
The initial implication that DBGA is tough to get releases from or strict with their employee non-competes is not correct. And you are a great example of that. You you were released to work for a competitor, and the noncompete was not enforced.

I need to get back to work but it is difficult not to respond when literally each message is without context or is not truthful.
-----People keep responding passionately because they 100000% agree with that last sentence. The difference is that they think YOUR posts lack context or are not being truthful.
----You felt my previous post lacked context or truth, so you created this response. That is not you 'slamming into me', that is you disagreeing with me, which you are allowed to do. And when I make this response, that is not me slamming into you, this is just my response

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[walthamny]

Hey this is why I remain a solo guy with no downline. I only have agent friends in other IMOs and I share things I learn with people I like. It would be a nightmare to have a person like this in my downline.

 

[Telesales314]

I stand by what I said about the non-compete. That is not standard.
-----The 'employee' part is where you are getting mixed up. Non-competes are NOT standard for independent agents who are the vast majority of agents on the forum, but they are not employees, they are 1099.
----for employees (like you were), they are common, especially in situations where they are subsidizing your lead costs in any way. I cant speak for why exactly @JRoot uses one, but I assume its there just in case a person tries to use your subsidized leads with another IMO or something of that nature. Some places are sticklers about enforcement, but some (like DBGA) rarely enforce them and they are just there as a last resort should a previous agent get up to some shenanigans.

So let's do this. All here seem to proclaim that that release is common
------Release is different then non-compete.

and I am a coward for not showing who I am
----I can't speak for everyone, but I have NO issue with you choosing to remain anonymous.
----However, I also have NO issue with a business owner clarifying the origin and background to a public complaint, if he feels the complaint lacks context or is not truthful.