How long should a new agent stay in an IMO that they think might be failing them

[Thedude]

Well, we have to start with BUILDING THAT WALL!!!

It'll provide jobs for those that are healthy, but choose to do nothing while sucking on the government teet.

I think it will help a bit but there bigger issues.

Small town usa is being torn apart. Opiods have taken over. Most of the people that would do these manual labor jobs do not have the desire to. And it's back to the same question... Why would a business pay more? A landlord can scream stop illegals but as soon as that apartment they have goes empty for months I bet they might reconsider having that Mexican family move In.

So what does that mean?
It means they spend money at that tiny grocery store that is barely making it as is. They spend money at that tiny restaurant that no longer gets business cause all the millenlials have moved into the cities. They open a Mexican restaurant and more central Americans come and spend money. Rent more apartments.

I think most small towns would be very hurt by completely removing all the illegal immigrants. It's a very complex issue and I think it goes way deeper than did they come here illegally or not.

 

[Thedude]

To completely solve the issue you would have to look at two things

1.why are they leaving their homes
2.what do they have when they get there

1. Violence and lack of opportunity. Entire communities destroyed by cartels battling over the rights to sell to the druggie gringos up north. Virtually no middle class. Corrupt politicians. Lack of Healthcare. Would they leave their homes if you remove these problems? Probably not.

2. Business stop hiring illegals.



Which option is easier to do? :/

 

[goillini52]

I think it will help a bit but there bigger issues.

Small town usa is being torn apart. Opiods have taken over. Most of the people that would do these manual labor jobs do not have the desire to. And it's back to the same question... Why would a business pay more? A landlord can scream stop illegals but as soon as that apartment they have goes empty for months I bet they might reconsider having that Mexican family move In.

So what does that mean?
It means they spend money at that tiny grocery store that is barely making it as is. They spend money at that tiny restaurant that no longer gets business cause all the millenlials have moved into the cities. They open a Mexican restaurant and more central Americans come and spend money. Rent more apartments.

I think most small towns would be very hurt by completely removing all the illegal immigrants. It's a very complex issue and I think it goes way deeper than did they come here illegally or not.

I see what you're saying, but a lot of the money that the illegal immigrants are spending in the community comes straight from the tax payors. Do you really want an endless stream of illegals pouring across the border that our taxpayors are going to have to support.

I can apreciate people wanting to come here for a better life, but they have to follow the rules. There's a limit, we can't take everyone in.

 

[Thedude]

I see what you're saying, but a lot of the money that the illegal immigrants are spending in the community comes straight from the tax payors. Do you really want an endless stream of illegals pouring across the border that our taxpayors are going to have to support.

I can apreciate people wanting to come here for a better life, but they have to follow the rules. There's a limit, we can't take everyone in.

Can you link me to where you saw that most of their money spent comes for tax payors?

I don't want everyone to be able to come here, hell no haha. I like to approach problems different ly though. People are predictable and resilient. They will continue to find ways into the USA. Will it stop more? Yea sure. It will not solve the problem though. If you were really worried about the taxpayer you wouldn't want it going to some expensive wall.

 

[NewbieNewbie]

Complicated issue. How do you solve the fact the majority came into the country legally and just simply overstayed their Visa?

 

[Thedude]

Complicated issue. How do you solve the fact the majority came into the country legally and just simply overstayed their Visa?

Make the wall 10ft taller...



That will help right?!

 

[goillini52]

Can you link me to where you saw that most of their money spent comes for tax payors?

I don't want everyone to be able to come here, hell no haha. I like to approach problems different ly though. People are predictable and resilient. They will continue to find ways into the USA. Will it stop more? Yea sure. It will not solve the problem though. If you were really worried about the taxpayer you wouldn't want it going to some expensive wall.

I can't remember where I saw that. By money spent, I'm referring to food stamps, Medicaid, Section 8 housing, etc. It just stands to reason, if they have no money when they get here, who do you suppose is supporting them?

Also, we could pay for that wall in one year with the savings from not supporting people that are breaking the law by being here.

I did find this though:

10 Ways Illegal Immigration Affects You Financially

Here you go...wall paid for in 2-3 months.
The Cost of Illegal Immigration to US Taxpayers | FAIR

 

[NewbieNewbie]

Make the wall 10ft taller...



That will help right?!

34000 and problem solved.

 

[JimmyCrappedCorn]

Well, we have to start with BUILDING THAT WALL!!!

It'll provide jobs for those that are healthy, but choose to do nothing while sucking on the government teet.

Trumps not going to build the wall. He is totally full of B.S. The Mexicans are not coming here to work hard they are coming here to get on the gravy train they see Americans on. They are coming so they can get food stamps and free health care and welfare and disability checks. They are coming to steal our women and our cars. They are coming, and when they figure out that Trump is full of hot air they will come in droves. The Mexicans are bullies and when bullies figure out that you are bluffing they kick your teeth in even farther. If you live in California or Arizona lock the doors and get ready because they are going to come in the next few years like we never saw before. They will over run this country eventually and help destroy it.

 

[goillini52]

Trumps not going to build the wall. He is totally full of B.S. The Mexicans are not coming here to work hard they are coming here to get on the gravy train they see Americans on. They are coming so they can get food stamps and free health care and welfare and disability checks. They are coming to steal our women and our cars. They are coming, and when they figure out that Trump is full of hot air they will come in droves. The Mexicans are bullies and when bullies figure out that you are bluffing they kick your teeth in even farther. If you live in California or Arizona lock the doors and get ready because they are going to come in the next few years like we never saw before. They will over run this country eventually and help destroy it.

Yep, the world has seen the loopholes in our system and they want to game the system too.

BUILD THAT WALL!!!!!