Wow this thread started off interesting, then it went on a big detour!! Allow me to attempt to right the path gradually...
I have a client that I visited the other day to upgrade her coverages (single black woman), she said she'd recently retired from several years as a manager at Arbys..they'd closed her store. They had offered her management of another store downtown ATL on Spring St....she rolled her eyes, "ohhh lawdy...I was insulted! SPRING STEET?!?! With all those --p-pp-people out there robbing and stabbing each other! No thanks" ( she stumbled for a second on 'people'...I knew what she wanted to say...)
So, whadda ya know, a black culterist! lol
ATL has alot of 'high society' blacks, and I gotta tell you, if they weren't black, you'd think they were racists...they H A T E the gettho crowd.
The answer to this question is easily illustrated on this map:
CensusScope -- Demographic Maps: An Aging Population
The people are in fact the same....you'd just want shorter drives between them, to increase the # of presentations w/in a given time....mid-west, and certian other pockets, for example some areas of Florida...just crawling with them....seniors I mean...
Live from Atlanta, home of what has been called the highest concentration of successful blacks in the country....some observations...
whites do a bit of looking down and embarrased by the 'honey-bo-bo' crowd...
but it's a bit different with the higher society blacks...it's almost a deep hatred...see, they have found success, they found it through education and hard work and delayed gratification...so the gettho black philosophy of 'ya can't make it in the white mans world, don't get "A"s in school because folks will think you're acting white, keepin it real' etc....they have a passionate, almost hatred, for that attitude, because they feel that although they themselves have found some success, they feel like the gettho mentality is the only thing holding their race down, and thus actually potentially limiting their own success via perceptions of the white man against blacks in general.
So, as a white man, I don't feel held back by Honey-Bo-Bo or other rednecks...but if I were an educated sucessful black man, I might feel upset at the 'gettho' culture, because I would feel that those perceptions carry over to myself and limit my success, after I've spent so much time and hard work into developing myself.
typical example, a black bum/wino on the street panhandles for money...the white person feels uncomforatable and embarrased and either gives some money or politely declines and hurries away....
but a black man in a business suit? I've seen them pull their arm up as if they were going to backhand the panhandler "Get the F*** out of my face mother-fer" -- because he KNOWS what it was like, he LIVED it, and he OVERCAME it, and so he knows this guy is just a lazy cracked out bum....so, the black man is not afflicted with white guilt, lol...he has the freedom to visciously hate it.
The redneck culture isn't so much lazy as it is 'dumb'.
The "gettho culture" is both lazy and dumb "I'm going to be in the NBA, until then I'll sling rock" and that's about it...and to successful blacks, they get very upset to their core, because the bums/getto crowd are using their race as an excuse, which by default carries over to the successful ones...and they hate it.
A slight segway to that is blacks who are gay...they find much less acceptance by their race then gay whites...black men don't like it because of the macho thing...but black women - in general - really don't like the concept of black men who are gay, because they feel it is reducing the supply of viable mates, and when so many other 'otherwise viable' black men are locked up in jail, and honestly alot of black men will be attracted to white women...it actually scews the ratios so that legit black men have ample supply of black women they can pick and choose and play games, while the black women have a much reduced supply of men to choose from...so when they see a good looking, well groomed black man with a job and money, and find out he's gay...$#(! they don't like that at all...similar when they see a good looking black man with a white woman...but not as bad, because at least he's into women.
Just some general observations from the New South...
And as to the North? On the surface, to an outsider, it may seem as though they racial issues are not as prevelent...but that's only because they've sectioned off parts of towns and burrows for themselves, for example New York is very self-segregated....as long as the asians stay on their side, the blacks over there, the irish over there, the polocks over there, then everything is fine...but you've got to look deeper into what made them self-segregate...
bottom line, it's all about 'culture'...and to many folks, living in a 'multi-culteral' environment is not as preferable to living around ones own. New York may not have as much overt racisim as the south...but they sure know how to pick the neighborhood they live in...
