If Money or Family Was No Issue...

[PaperHanger]

I don't have to google because I have a honey hole down there.

Perspective is everything, if a person isn't used to being around poor black/white people then a person might say it's ghetto/trailer trash.

I love those areas and the clients, cool, down to earth, very direct people. I was always taught-Scared money don't make no money. Like any other major city, a person just has to be street smart.
Don't get me wrong, the areas are full of sharks but 95% of people are kind and just trying to get by.

Go experience it for yourself, hand out some business cards, spark a conversation, then give us your feedback.

Well you're right, I suppose I should give downtown ATL a go....seeing as how I've already spent the money on all those leads and all...

(Map of my leads in ATL)
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byp7WiT06afhR1JudzJDTGI0MFk/edit?usp=sharing

Oh wait...I guess I only have to Google the location of the Police Station, and the closing time of the Arbys, because I don't remember any police stations "1 block away" from that Arbys, as you said...

See, I already "know the area" very very well, I used to be around for Saturday nights at Backstreets, I know for an absolute fact how shady the area is.
I also used to live in Little 5 Points, and also lived beside the intersection of Ponce and Boulevard for awhile, where once I went out and told the hookers they should be on the South side of Ponce, not the North Side...(ask your honey hole if she remembers me, lol), their pimps got a little upset with me, but hustled the ho's southward when they realized my dial was all the way up on 11.

My family has 100+ years history beating the streets of Spring and Peachtree...Cabbage Town, Edgewood, College Park, English Ave...I've heard first hand accounts from my family of how the city fell, from my grandparents, and also my dad doing ride-along with me, pointing out all his old haunts from the Fed Prision to the West End.

I was doing FE in 2004 when the projects were still standing...if I saw a pack of yout's practicing their 'hard' look, I'd march right up to them and say "I'm the insurance man, looking for Ellie Maye", and it would be comical the service I would get..."right this way sir, she stay over there"

My appologies, but please remind me, are you trying to convince a seasoned FE agent to go into the hood (no need), or are you still recomending that a 60+ year old lady take a job at a fast food joint down in the center of the highest crime area of the city...

Atl Crime Map...MapATL - Atlanta Crime

the Arbys in question is directly under the big red circle that says "3178" which, if my math is right, is the largest number on the screen:

3178 reported crimes in that specific area, between April 2013 - July 2013.


That said, I don't walk the streets after dark down there, I do my appts in houses and apartments, and if I stop at a red light and no other cars are there, I run it...If I ever got pulled over for that, I'd have no problem telling the cop "these aren't the droids you're looking for....move along"....

The perception of it being a dangerous place is probably created by the factual record of it being a VERY high crime area.

Great place for FE.
Not so great for 60+ year old ladies at a 2am closing time .

Good luck down there, tell 'honey hole' I said Hi.

 

[WinoBlues]

I call Bullsh!t on you wanting to change the whole race debate of the thread.

Well you're right, I suppose I should give downtown ATL a go....seeing as how I've already spent the money on all those leads and all...

(Map of my leads in ATL)
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byp7WiT06afhR1JudzJDTGI0MFk/edit?usp=sharing

Oh wait...I guess I only have to Google the location of the Police Station, and the closing time of the Arbys, because I don't remember any police stations "1 block away" from that Arbys, as you said...

See, I already "know the area" very very well, I used to be around for Saturday nights at Backstreets, I know for an absolute fact how shady the area is.
I also used to live in Little 5 Points, and also lived beside the intersection of Ponce and Boulevard for awhile, where once I went out and told the hookers they should be on the South side of Ponce, not the North Side...(ask your honey hole if she remembers me, lol), their pimps got a little upset with me, but hustled the ho's southward when they realized my dial was all the way up on 11.

My family has 100+ years history beating the streets of Spring and Peachtree...Cabbage Town, Edgewood, College Park, English Ave...I've heard first hand accounts from my family of how the city fell, from my grandparents, and also my dad doing ride-along with me, pointing out all his old haunts from the Fed Prision to the West End.

I was doing FE in 2004 when the projects were still standing...if I saw a pack of yout's practicing their 'hard' look, I'd march right up to them and say "I'm the insurance man, looking for Ellie Maye", and it would be comical the service I would get..."right this way sir, she stay over there"

My appologies, but please remind me, are you trying to convince a seasoned FE agent to go into the hood (no need), or are you still recomending that a 60+ year old lady take a job at a fast food joint down in the center of the highest crime area of the city...

Atl Crime Map...MapATL - Atlanta Crime

the Arbys in question is directly under the big red circle that says "3178" which, if my math is right, is the largest number on the screen:

3178 reported crimes in that specific area, between April 2013 - July 2013.


That said, I don't walk the streets after dark down there, I do my appts in houses and apartments, and if I stop at a red light and no other cars are there, I run it...If I ever got pulled over for that, I'd have no problem telling the cop "these aren't the droids you're looking for....move along"....

The perception of it being a dangerous place is probably created by the factual record of it being a VERY high crime area.

Great place for FE.
Not so great for 60+ year old ladies at a 2am closing time .

Good luck down there, tell 'honey hole' I said Hi.

 

[PaperHanger]

I call Bullsh!t on you wanting to change the whole race debate of the thread.

Well, I didn't mention race once, simply explaining that yes, I have no problem working the area as FE, but I fully support my client not accepting a transfer down there....

You don't see the irony of Knight implying that I don't know the area, and I should hand out business cards and report my results? I work the area, I've lived in the area, and my family had lived in the area going back 100 years...I know the area well, it is not the safest place to be.

So there's yet another post NOT about race, but about the places good for FE

And btw, the guy that stole my wife's car from the house near Boulevard was white. ..opps, you caught me talking race, lol

 

[Ron Van D]

Before-It's-Deleted Of The Day | Black & Right

 

[PaperHanger]

Before-It's-Deleted Of The Day | Black & Right

So I wonder what county this was in? Sounds like some prime FE land, for generations to come!!

 

[smokin goose]

Well you're right, I suppose I should give downtown ATL a go....seeing as how I've already spent the money on all those leads and all...

(Map of my leads in ATL)
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byp7WiT06afhR1JudzJDTGI0MFk/edit?usp=sharing

Oh wait...I guess I only have to Google the location of the Police Station, and the closing time of the Arbys, because I don't remember any police stations "1 block away" from that Arbys, as you said...

See, I already "know the area" very very well, I used to be around for Saturday nights at Backstreets, I know for an absolute fact how shady the area is.
I also used to live in Little 5 Points, and also lived beside the intersection of Ponce and Boulevard for awhile, where once I went out and told the hookers they should be on the South side of Ponce, not the North Side...(ask your honey hole if she remembers me, lol), their pimps got a little upset with me, but hustled the ho's southward when they realized my dial was all the way up on 11.

My family has 100+ years history beating the streets of Spring and Peachtree...Cabbage Town, Edgewood, College Park, English Ave...I've heard first hand accounts from my family of how the city fell, from my grandparents, and also my dad doing ride-along with me, pointing out all his old haunts from the Fed Prision to the West End.

I was doing FE in 2004 when the projects were still standing...if I saw a pack of yout's practicing their 'hard' look, I'd march right up to them and say "I'm the insurance man, looking for Ellie Maye", and it would be comical the service I would get..."right this way sir, she stay over there"

My appologies, but please remind me, are you trying to convince a seasoned FE agent to go into the hood (no need), or are you still recomending that a 60+ year old lady take a job at a fast food joint down in the center of the highest crime area of the city...

Atl Crime Map...MapATL - Atlanta Crime

the Arbys in question is directly under the big red circle that says "3178" which, if my math is right, is the largest number on the screen:

3178 reported crimes in that specific area, between April 2013 - July 2013.

That said, I don't walk the streets after dark down there, I do my appts in houses and apartments, and if I stop at a red light and no other cars are there, I run it...If I ever got pulled over for that, I'd have no problem telling the cop "these aren't the droids you're looking for....move along"....

The perception of it being a dangerous place is probably created by the factual record of it being a VERY high crime area.

Great place for FE.
Not so great for 60+ year old ladies at a 2am closing time .

Good luck down there, tell 'honey hole' I said Hi.

Much love, but I bet you talk a lot in person. :-)

 

[SirKnight31]

Well you're right, I suppose I should give downtown ATL a go....seeing as how I've already spent the money on all those leads and all...

(Map of my leads in ATL)
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byp7WiT06afhR1JudzJDTGI0MFk/edit?usp=sharing

Oh wait...I guess I only have to Google the location of the Police Station, and the closing time of the Arbys, because I don't remember any police stations "1 block away" from that Arbys, as you said...

See, I already "know the area" very very well, I used to be around for Saturday nights at Backstreets, I know for an absolute fact how shady the area is.
I also used to live in Little 5 Points, and also lived beside the intersection of Ponce and Boulevard for awhile, where once I went out and told the hookers they should be on the South side of Ponce, not the North Side...(ask your honey hole if she remembers me, lol), their pimps got a little upset with me, but hustled the ho's southward when they realized my dial was all the way up on 11.

My family has 100+ years history beating the streets of Spring and Peachtree...Cabbage Town, Edgewood, College Park, English Ave...I've heard first hand accounts from my family of how the city fell, from my grandparents, and also my dad doing ride-along with me, pointing out all his old haunts from the Fed Prision to the West End.

I was doing FE in 2004 when the projects were still standing...if I saw a pack of yout's practicing their 'hard' look, I'd march right up to them and say "I'm the insurance man, looking for Ellie Maye", and it would be comical the service I would get..."right this way sir, she stay over there"

My appologies, but please remind me, are you trying to convince a seasoned FE agent to go into the hood (no need), or are you still recomending that a 60+ year old lady take a job at a fast food joint down in the center of the highest crime area of the city...

Atl Crime Map...MapATL - Atlanta Crime

the Arbys in question is directly under the big red circle that says "3178" which, if my math is right, is the largest number on the screen:

3178 reported crimes in that specific area, between April 2013 - July 2013.


That said, I don't walk the streets after dark down there, I do my appts in houses and apartments, and if I stop at a red light and no other cars are there, I run it...If I ever got pulled over for that, I'd have no problem telling the cop "these aren't the droids you're looking for....move along"....

The perception of it being a dangerous place is probably created by the factual record of it being a VERY high crime area.

Great place for FE.
Not so great for 60+ year old ladies at a 2am closing time .

Good luck down there, tell 'honey hole' I said Hi.

We simply see the city from two very different lenses.

I'm not even going to sink to that level tonight. You've more than painted a picture of who you are.

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I call Bullsh!t on you wanting to change the whole race debate of the thread.

I call BullSh*t too.
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Well, I didn't mention race once, simply explaining that yes, I have no problem working the area as FE, but I fully support my client not accepting a transfer down there....

You don't see the irony of Knight implying that I don't know the area, and I should hand out business cards and report my results? I work the area, I've lived in the area, and my family had lived in the area going back 100 years...I know the area well, it is not the safest place to be.

So there's yet another post NOT about race, but about the places good for FE

And btw, the guy that stole my wife's car from the house near Boulevard was white. ..opps, you caught me talking race, lol

You have a wife?

(let me stop)lol

 

[PaperHanger]

We simply see the city from two very different lenses.

I'm not even going to sink to that level tonight. You've more than painted a picture of who you are.

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Sorry, don't even understand your post. I see Atlanta as a resident of 15 years and as a decendant of residents, both my parents were born up the street at Crawford Long...my mother taught at a mostly minority school, my father was on the board of directors and coached basketball at our local Boys Club, and now does mission trips from Africa to India, and I am my parent's son. So I am entierly missing your point about sinking to a level and picture painting.

You said my elderly client was ignorant about the crime, when it is in fact a very high crime area. Heck, even the college students at GA Tech want to conceal carry on campus...and the funny thing is, it's better than it used to be.

I gave up the rose colored lenses when I graduated college and moved to the big big city...they are now colorless and I view this city clearly and think its a great place to be and work and I have lots of clients and leads, as you are now aware, so pahleeze! no I don't feel the need to hand out business cards and report back to you, I have fresh leads to run all over your 'honey hole', and my aged client is happy with her check from arbys and is enjoying her early retirement, thanks but no thanks to a transfer downtown, she may be ignant, but she ain't dumb.

 

[xrac]

By and large, it is very hard to hate the person in front of you, but easy to hate the faceless group at a distance.


Ain't that the truth. During the 60's race riots my folks were as prejudiced as they came but then great personal friends with the black woman my mother worked with and her husband. Go figure.

 

[jjrardin]

I agree with several things posted in here.

#1. It is ALL about perspective
#2. I have a car,cell phone, USPS, and can work anywhere
#3. It can and does work anywhere, and I'm sure there are some honey holes.

Short of moving to a place that may or may not be a honey hole, I have considered moving where I'd like to see, and making it work. If I wanted to see snow (although I don't know who would do it on purpose LOL) I'd go to MN, sand go to FL... Me, I'd like to spend some more time in Paso Robles, CA. I was there for a short time, it was beautiful... might do it someday, for the scenery.

I've also thought a step further of what country... looked briefly at Brazil and couple of other smaller countries... blogs made it sound better for locals, not so much for outsiders. Broad statements.... just spent an afternoon drinkin Miller Lite and google is all. I was diggin the thought of panama hat, shorts, fish tacos and beer