My Medicare Advantage Experience Thus Far...

[KRobby]

Those were the good ole days LOL!

Brandon started a great thread and was sharing his experience. We didn't start this at all. I just came here to clarify a few things. No matter what industry you are in, you will deal with haters.

My brother in law owns a roofing business and it is just as bad in that industry. He gets calls where people tell him they "changed their mind" about him doing their roof. When he goes out there to find out why, he realizes that another roofing company told them "He has been caught stealing from the houses. His roofs always leak. He has drug addicts working for him." The lies he gets sometimes are hilarious. But it proves the point, people would rather lie or try and tear the competition down instead of putting in the amount of work that he puts in.

This is the same scenario. Why couldn't Matt read Brandon's post and be happy that he is doing good? Why does he have to keep calling the same agents over and over with lies to just try to get them to work with him? Why did he make a deal with Lowery (which made Lowery do all of the recruiting so Matt didn't have to) and then never hold up his end?

He seems to be obsessed with pointing fingers at what others do wrong instead of spending the time/money to build his own business.

Nothing seemed combative until Brandon wanted nothing to do with Matt's compliments in post 2. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[bboman23]

Nothing seemed combative until Brandon wanted nothing to do with Matt's compliments in post 2. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Guess you would have to know him the way Brandon and myself do to understand what he was doing in his post. He was not giving Brandon praise, he was trying to make his program out to be better. But what do I know....

But as I said, it is 2018 and if your business is going good, great! If it is not, then make the changes. No need in bashing what others are doing all the time. That is not healthy! I know a ton of agencies that run their business completely different than I would/do, but they are still successful. I make enough to feed my family and someone has tried to steal my agency (twice) without being successful, so I have to be doing something halfway right. I will keep on keeping on and hopefully all of you will as well!

 

[Thedude]

I love threads like these honestly. It really shows how quickly most people resort to low blows, back handed compliments, relationship history....THE POSTING will not stop. It's a response to the previous insult + here's why you are bad.

Even the ones that don't seem to do that actually do. I think i should create some personality profiles for all the IMO leaders on here. Would you all take it? It would give some great insight into why you all are so similar.

 

[myinsurebiz]

Those were the good ole days LOL!

Brandon started a great thread and was sharing his experience. We didn't start this at all. I just came here to clarify a few things. No matter what industry you are in, you will deal with haters.

My brother in law owns a roofing business and it is just as bad in that industry. He gets calls where people tell him they "changed their mind" about him doing their roof. When he goes out there to find out why, he realizes that another roofing company told them "He has been caught stealing from the houses. His roofs always leak. He has drug addicts working for him." The lies he gets sometimes are hilarious. But it proves the point, people would rather lie or try and tear the competition down instead of putting in the amount of work that he puts in.

This is the same scenario. Why couldn't Matt read Brandon's post and be happy that he is doing good? Why does he have to keep calling the same agents over and over with lies to just try to get them to work with him? Why did he make a deal with Lowery (which made Lowery do all of the recruiting so Matt didn't have to) and then never hold up his end?

He seems to be obsessed with pointing fingers at what others do wrong instead of spending the time/money to build his own business.

Y'all all in it for the buck . . .

 

[myinsurebiz]

Nothing seemed combative until Brandon wanted nothing to do with Matt's compliments in post 2. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Say what . . .

 

[OttoGraf]

At the end of the day someone is making money off of you in the insurance business no matter who you are. So you have two options (in general) the way I see it:


1. As some propose on the forum; be a lone ranger and have your contracts spread out with a bunch of different IMO'S. "They don't need or want anything from anybody because they can figure everything out on their own". The IMO has to love this agent because the ONLY value proposition they have to bring to the table for the agent is a contract. Sorry, I need way more than that in return for my overrides. Plus I'm not wired that way. I thrive when I'm a part of something bigger than myself.


2. The second option is to partner with a single IMO along with their lead program etc. This is the scenario which provides the prospective agent the best opportunity to do their homework and decide who provides them the best value based on their goals. Do you want a great lead source, personal mentoring/coaching, a team environment, 24/7 support, multiple product offerings, an avenue to build your own agency, etc. I mean if the IMO is going to make a bunch of money off of me it'd be nice to feel like they are providing valuable ongoing resources in return in my opinion.


With that said, that's why it wasn't a difficult decision for me to leave Matt Mungia/360 a year ago. I wasn't a part of any of the back-and-forth kerfuffle that's recycled here over and over. There was just simply very little value provided to me and my business other than an avenue for fixed priced leads, which an agent can find anywhere these days.


However, it sounds like things might be changing a bit with Matt/Doug/360 compared to the past three plus years there. Coincidentally, this shift seemed to occur in correlation with losing numerous agents to direct competition this past year, which is awesome to hear. This is not an "easy" career so a prospective agent deserves all of the training, support and encouragement they can get.

 

[SPUR CITY]

At the end of the day we are all currently at the spot that we each believe is best for us at this current time.

We have been fortunate to have been the home to MANY great agents during our tenure and have helped advance the careers of many of today’s leaders and their families in turn. Hopefully they all will continue on to accomplish great things.

We just ended 2017 with our best year ever. More AP than ever & sent more agents on Incentive trips around the world than ever before (Proud to have helped Peter on his first incentive trip win when he won a cruise through Alaska with us last year).

With the addition of our NEW Medicare program & accomplished trainer in that arena the forecast will ONLY continue trending upwards.

Best of luck to all in their future endeavors!

 

[VolAgent]

For some reason, I've always enjoyed it when people tell stupid little lies that are so easily exposed. Nothing like watching someone damage their credibility over something stupid.

Of course, most of you guys are just playing to your base. No matter what you say, your fan club will eat it up and the other side will hate and attack it.

 

[senior-advisor-indiana]

Oh I'll admit that I wrote it.

Am I the only one that found this funny?....

 

[Todd King]

Am I the only one that found this funny?....

No, I find the whole thread funny. You've got guys trying to out one another and seems like in the end they out themselves too! I guess, if you don't really have the experience you make it up. When you get caught you drag someone else down with you. LOL . We've also got some telling us how they really feel, even though they didn't really intend for the rest of the world to know.

Cats seem to be jumping out of bags everywhere!