Obama, Anti Bible?

[CPACINS]

"What world do you live in?"

Not yours. In mine choice is available so a woman can decide for herself. She does not HAVE to choose to terminate a pregnancy, it is an option. As I said, there are those out there who make the effort to offer an alternative besides "burning in hell" or being "charged with murder", but I guess they don't live on your block, do they?

They live in my kooky world. They help with the pregnancy costs and adopt the child through private adoption. And you know, I don't think for once they approach the situation the same way you would. They don't threaten or call someone names, they offer support both emotionally and financially to someone who is scared and worried and usually left alone. They are deeply religous folks who let their actions be their words. I admire and respect them.
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So in your world, if I choose to kill my neighbor, it's ok? It's my choice?


Now, you question whether I support someone who makes a mistake and needs assistance. I would never turn away from someone in need. The church that I attend, actually has adoption services set up for all those who have made mistakes. I have said it before, church is a place for sinners. We all make mistakes. But don't compund one mistake with another horrible one.


As for my blog, I am actually glad you find it kooky. It would have surprised me if you didn't. It's because it's the truth backed up with facts. If you notice, there is very little commentary, and when there is, it is backed up with proof like videos, articles or scientific studies. Something liberals do very little of. They just name call or say something is a crisis to stir up emotion. But when you research it, it has nothing to stand on. Just like your arguments.

 

[Charpress]

One thing I've noticed in my years of experience: I have never personally changed anyone's views on religion nor on abortion regardless of how wise, persuasive or correct I was.

Come to think of it, I've never even seen anyone else change another person's views on these two subjects. Never.

I don't know why people try. But it is interesting to watch people butt their heads against a brick wall and try to convince the other person that they are wrong while all the while being convinced they are themselves right.

 

[LGilmore]

"I don't know why people try. But it is interesting to watch people butt their heads against a brick wall and try to convince the other person that they are wrong while all the while being convinced they are themselves right."

excellent point. And very true.

I'll have my wonderful buttered popcorn with cajun seasoning, along with that diet coke now Mr. Marlin. Oh, could you splash a little black velvet in that coke please?

And Eric, I'll throw my slippers on for now. My feets be hurtin.

 

[bluemarlin08]

Charpress, funny you posted those thoughts, I was out stacking firewood in the basement and those exact thoughts went through my mind.

Master Gilmore, I don'ts have none of that black velvet, but i be glad to share some of my crown royal with ya, hopes you have a nice, warm night, gonna be icy here in the volunteer state!

 

[LGilmore]

"crown royal "

Isn't that more of a rocks drink? It's far too good to mix. Like my bushmill's, I save for those special times.....

"volunteer state" wouldn't you be a JD man?

 

[Guest]

It's a life the minute someone gets pregnant and is excited and starts planning the baby's room and gets congratulated! The minute there's a plus sign from the pee on the stick!!

Those that don't want the responsibility that goes with their actions should have a choice? Zero accountability is never a good thing. Now if it's rape, see the last paragraph.

The age old question is when does it becomes a life?

With 13.5% of the US population being African American, does this even make sense?

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And what's worse? A woman gets raped, gets pregnant. Nothing erases the rape memory, nothing. So wouldn't it be better if she gave the baby up to adoption, or is it better to put her body and mind through the ramifications and risks of an abortion, and add that to psychological damage of the rape itself?

They never tell women the possible emotional and physical risks involved in aborting. Many women said if they knew, they never would have done it.

C'mon, what really sounds better to you?

Choice.

Choice.

Choice.

It's a Choice, not a mandate.

Offer a better alternative. Offer to raise the child through college. Offer a better choice.

Don't b itch about social programs and at the same time condem Choice. Offer to buck up and adopt or support if you believe choice should be off the table.

Offer a better solution...

 

[fostever]

"address if it is killing a life or not"

Can you write a life policy on it?

Or are you working in an industry that doesn't support your pov?

Does it have dependents? No, but it's dependent on it's mother's choice for its life. What Insurance company would write a life policy on a fetus with all the abortions going on. No parents ever looked at their ultrasound and said " look at that mass of tissue!"

 

[LGilmore]

As I said again and I'll write slow... choice. It's exactly what the word means. To have options.

With all respect Rob, you don't speak for all women. They have the legal right to choose. Some may have regrets, some may not. That is an aspect of choice, a consequence for that choice.

I don't have to agree or like the choice. It's not mine to make for a woman. Especially one I'm not involved with.

I must respect the right to choose. Just as I must accept that you have the right to vote republican, or not.

It is your choice, I don't have to agree with it, but in the country I live in, people are allowed to make decisions for themselves. It really is that simple.

They don't have to make a choice I like. Is it required that a person makes a choice you like?

We could go into an entire sidebar about how America is in decline because there are enough unwanted children out there now growing up unloved, ignored and uncared for by parents of all economic classes. They are wharehoused in our schools, pulling downward on our system because their parents can't be bothered to come to parent teacher night because American Idol is on....

I've been involved with education for years and coaching. I see kids that would have been better off if mom had taken a morning after pill. I've had kids I coached DIE at 13 and 14 because their parents don't have time to be bothered raising their children. Some kids, regardless of economic class are just born into this world to die a slow premature death because their parents couldn't be bothered to raise them.

There's not a perfect answer to this situation, except every child should be wanted and cared for, not forced to live a cancerous life of a unwanted child, with parents whom have no interest in the growth and well being of that child.

As the saying goes fellas, if you are against abortion, don't have one...

I support the right to have an option. It is up to the person(s) involved directly to decide what that option will be.

 

[CPACINS]

Just because something is legal doesn't make it right. Murder is murder. There should NEVER be a choice between life or death of something innocent. Nobody should have that power. The choice that we should be talking about is whether they should choose to do the action that causes the pregnancy or not. Not killing something because you made a bad choice.

LGilmore you talk about killing a child and correlating it to voting rights? Are you joking?

Now you may think I missed the rest of your post. I truly feel sorry for those kids of unloving parents. We should do all that we can to try to help them and help lift them up. But there also has to be something in this society for people to take some personal responsibility for their actions. Taking murder (abortion) off the table would help do that.
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[Guest]

In mine [world] choice is available so a woman can decide for herself.

As I said again and I'll write slow... choice. It's exactly what the word means. To have options.

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And that's exactly right! A WOMAN has the CHOICE of whether to have sex or not. You guys never seem to go back quite far enough to the PRIMARY choice. You just take for granted everybody f..ks, er, has sex, marriage and commitment be damned. Perhaps they do. But the FIRST choice a woman has is HERS. Make that choice wrong or at the wrong time, well...gee...it's not her fault, or his fault, nothing is anybody's fault, everybody's doing it, I can't help it. Are there REALLY that many uninformed, undisciplined, immoral, ignorant people in this country of both sexes and all races?

Oh yeah, I forgot, there's B.O. all the way up to the White House now. We are a stench in the nostrils of God.

Party on.