Noemi Ortega, Jay Crockett and Senior Life [Warning]

[shonceman]

I don't recruit now, but I used to. Of course that was many years ago, and things may have changed. At that time it was fairly standard practice to request protected status of a potential recruit, usually for 3 to 6 months.

Whether or not it's the norm now, I would feel shafted if a "friend" was talking to me about an opportunity, but then used the info he got from me to leverage a nickel higher contract with a different manager in the same company. Do people not value loyalty anymore?

 

[Jaymon]

I don't recruit now, but I used to. Of course that was many years ago, and things may have changed. At that time it was fairly standard practice to request protected status of a potential recruit, usually for 3 to 6 months.

Whether or not it's the norm now, I would feel shafted if a "friend" was talking to me about an opportunity, but then used the info he got from me to leverage a nickel higher contract with a different manager in the same company. Do people not value loyalty anymore?

YES.....thank you!!!!!!!

 

[Tahoe Ray]

This is some old school FE forum...

 

[Jaymon]

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magine this, your friend asks you to introduce them to the insurance company you work for because they are interested in the products.

However, after they have seen everything they needed to see, they decide to buy a policy from another agent in your office instead of you.

AND they hope you understand because you are their friend. Come on man lol

You shoulda just went directly to them instead of involving your "friend."

You hit the nail on the head.

 

[Jaymon]

We can all see what Chris really did on the business-end is ethically wrong, as far as being a friend, well I can honestly say we only spoke business...so that's BS as well.

He threatened us and then followed up within hours by starting this tread posting our names publicly shows his ethics.

I reported it to forums, ASKING them to take our names out...I guess they approve of this kind of behavior.

He's a moderator on the FB page "Life Insurance- Tips, Tricks & Closers". He throws anyone out if they to recruit there. Hopefully Chris does not trash our names on that FB page as well.

MODERATORS OF THIS FORUMS....PLEASE TAKE OUR NAMES OFF!

 

[theinsuranceman]

Jay, you were the one that placed me on a protected agent list which caused the company to make the change you need to own the responsibility of that. It's disgusting that you refuse to even admit that you did that in our conversation.

You also have the ability to undo the change and allow me to work under the person I had contracted with but you refused to allow that to happen.

you took the cowards way out plain and simple. You cost your company money, and future growth in the spiteful action you took. But, I'm glad I figured it out early that a company that would permit something like this wouldn't be one I wouldn't want a long-term association with anyway.

You have bashed SL the last few years without knowing much about our opportunity. Why did you all of a sudden want to join us? There are a also a few other agents/IMO's on this forum who have bashed SL the last few years and are now writing biz and recruiting agents to our opportunity.

And that includes the other IMO you wanted to be under (not Jay). That IMO used to bash SL and now he's appointed with us. Agents and IMO's are starting to see we really do have the best overall FE opportunity out there. Steadily becoming the BIGGEST FE carrier in the nation!

 

[Tothetop]

Steadily becoming the BIGGEST FE carrier in the nation!

Cue the Dr. evil laugh lol

 

[Agentguy5]

Sure Doug I'll admit my mistake but stealing an agent and not telling him he's on a "protected" list is far worse.

Insuranceman once told me that SL managers ALL had protected territories... whether you're selling on the phone or not. Is this why they contracted you with your "friend"?

 

[Agentguy5]

Unfortunately, as I said before.. there are too many people using this forum in a way that is just Pathetic.

2 Years ago I trained an agent in Florida. Immediately, he asked me for a release to Scott Burke... for an extra 5 points on his contracts... I was pretty upset when he did this as the Fu$%& A hole and I had a Verbal understanding that he broke as soon as he got trained up.

When he emailed me the request to release his contracts, he immediately came on this forum and started a thread asking how long I take to release agents.... as a power play to get me to drop everything I was doing, even though he broke our agreement, so he could get his extra 5 points from Newby... Without even having to wait a few days.

The first thing he did was Fu#$ me on our agreement and he used this forum as a tool to do it....

At some point the agents, and FORUM Monitors needs to be held accountable when agents pull BS like what the OP is doing in this thread...

Yet, another reason I don't come on the Fake News Insurance Forum much!

 

[Jaymon]

Unfortunately, as I said before.. there are too many people using this forum in a way that is just Pathetic.

At some point the agents, and FORUM Monitors needs to be held accountable when agents pull BS like what the OP is doing in this thread...

Yet, another reason I don't come on the Fake News Insurance Forum much!

Yes...everyone sees what Chris did and the Moderators should not allow our names to posted. NO ACCOUNTABILITY!!!