Securus Did It Again

[Rearden]

Who are you contracted with?

Most likely you'll be fine.

Plenty of options out there to sell successfully.

It comes down to the agent, not the carrier, anyway.

PS: What part of South Carolina are you in? I am happy to send you to the right people at EFES. I have a relationship with the manager out of Atlanta that will treat you fairly.

 

[Bushwaffle]

Who are you contracted with?

Most likely you'll be fine.

Plenty of options out there to sell successfully.

It comes down to the agent, not the carrier, anyway.

PS: What part of South Carolina are you in? I am happy to send you to the right people at EFES. I have a relationship with the manager out of Atlanta that will treat you fairly.

upstate, only about 2 hrs from ATL

contracted with a bunch. Only used American Amicable so far, which seems to be the norm for my agency.

AmAm
UHL
AmCo
AmGen
Assurity
Aviva
Fidelity
Foresters
ING
Kemper
Monumental
MOA
N. Amer
Occidental
Oxford
Phoenix

 

[Justin Bilyj]

Does he have to sell the 18 left with Securus?
Go indy, you already know enough.
Get a Settlers, Monumental, RNA contract and sell the rest of those leads...

 

[Rearden]

upstate, only about 2 hrs from ATL

Which Final Expense carriers are you contracted with?

 

[Bushwaffle]

Which Final Expense carriers are you contracted with?

contracted with a bunch. Only used American Amicable so far, which seems to be the norm for my agency.

AmAm
UHL
AmCo
AmGen
Assurity
Aviva
Fidelity
Foresters
ING
Kemper
Monumental
MOA
N. Amer
Occidental
Oxford
Phoenix
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Does he have to sell the 18 left with Securus?
Go indy, you already know enough.
Get a Settlers, Monumental, RNA contract and sell the rest of those leads...

I feel the indy vibe, no doubt as I've owned and operated my own cold calling sales business prior for 9 years...I don't have a philosophical problem with it, lol. My research at this point hasn't brought clarity yet on lead generation.

 

[HoosierLife]

contracted with a bunch. Only used American Amicable so far, which seems to be the norm for my agency.

AmAm
UHL
AmCo
AmGen
Assurity
Aviva
Fidelity
Foresters
ING
Kemper
Monumental
MOA
N. Amer
Occidental
Oxford
Phoenix
.

RNA, 5 star and Settlers life would be a good set up while you wait for your releases.

 

[Bushwaffle]

Does he have to sell the 18 left with Securus?
Go indy, you already know enough.
Get a Settlers, Monumental, RNA contract and sell the rest of those leads...

Just checked out Settler website...looks pretty standard. So, you've had good experience with them?
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RNA, 5 star and Settlers life would be a good set up while you wait for your releases.

OK, that's multiple folks with cred here making the same suggestions...for carriers. Sounding like a good way forward. LEADS are the next item up...??

 

[Agentguy5]

Yeah, see, this kills me... SECURUS has him contracted with all these carriers so he is locked in with them... Now, when he wants to leave, he is screwed... NOT KOOL! Having their top 4 or 5 makes sense, but all of them????

BUSHWAFFLE, you really need to contact your upline immediately... Actually, you should go right over their head and speak with someone about getting a release... Explain to them that there is NO HUMANLY WAY POSSIBLE for you to succeed at the rate you are going... If you promise to work the leads you have with their insurers, will they release you? I know that some of the agency managers with EFES will release their agents and have done this in the past.. The question is, will SECURUS step up and do the right thing here!

 

[Bushwaffle]

Yeah, see, this kills me... SECURUS has him contracted with all these carriers so he is locked in with them... Now, when he wants to leave, he is screwed... NOT KOOL! Having their top 4 or 5 makes sense, but all of them????

BUSHWAFFLE, you really need to contact your upline immediately... Actually, you should go right over their head and speak with someone about getting a release... Explain to them that there is NO HUMANLY WAY POSSIBLE for you to succeed at the rate you are going... If you promise to work the leads you have with their insurers, will they release you? I know that some of the agency managers with EFES will release their agents and have done this in the past.. The question is, will SECURUS step up and do the right thing here!

You know I may actually be wrong about that. I may not actually be contracted with ALL of them. Let me see for sure...

 

[Rearden]

What a bunch of **** -- I think I know the group you're apart of.

The Enrichment Program IMO is a huge mistake Securus is making.

You could sell final expense to 50 to 85 year olds ALL DAY with 5-Star, RNA, and Settlers.

Monumental is a great all-around carrier for FE, but, you've got another year before you get your release.

As far as lead generation goes. You won't be able to use Main Street Power Mail -- Securus does all their lead generation from there. They have some restrictive covenant.

I'd call up Chris Ethridge at leadconnections.com -- Everybody raves about his customer service and lead quality who's totally independent from lead-subsidizing IMOs.

Nevertheless, you can go through EFES, get RNA and Americo, and make a good living selling FE until you get releases.

I'll PM you EFES contact info.

PS: I WOULD attempt to talk to your upline -- either about getting a more viable contact percentage (85% minimum) or leaving and getting nothing.

You might be surprised that they might work with you.